<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div>FYI</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br class="">From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Job Snijders via NANOG</strong> <span dir="auto" class=""><<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a>></span><br class="">Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 at 07:57<br class="">Subject: Fwd: RADb will migrate to IRRdv4 on October 30, 2023<br class="">To: North American Network Operators' Group <<a href="mailto:nanog@nanog.org" class="">nanog@nanog.org</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Dear all,</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Please see the below announcement, I think this is really good news!</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">RPKI-based filtering at large databases and mirror services like RADB really helps take the sting out of potentially harmful RPKI-invalid IRR route objects. This will positively impact operators who use bgpq3, irrpt, or irrtoolset/peval to generate filters, because those tools use <a href="http://whois.radb.net/" target="_blank" class="">whois.radb.net</a> by default.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Kind regards,<br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Job</div></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br class="">From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Merit RADb</strong> <span dir="auto" class=""><<a href="mailto:radb@merit.edu" target="_blank" class="">radb@merit.edu</a>></span><br class="">Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 at 21:00<br class="">Subject: RADb will migrate to IRRdv4 on October 30, 2023<br class="">To: <<a href="mailto:job@fastly.com" target="_blank" class="">job@fastly.com</a>><br class=""></div><br class=""><br class=""><u class=""></u>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We will import the current database into IRRDv4 on October 30th.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We will work to maintain the current serial numbers for NRTM. If we are unable to you will need to update your mirror before NRTM can continue.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We will enable RPKI.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">The rpki-ov-state RPSL field notes the RPKI status (valid, invalid, or not-found)</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">whois will hide RPKI invalid objects unless you use !fno-rpki-filters</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">IRRDv4 is more strict, but we are starting with most of this strictness disabled initially.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">IRRDv4 may output RPSL objects differently. </span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">The RADb API is the same, but may return different error messages, or similar error messages with different wording. For example, it will now report RPKI errors.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Existing mntner objects will be imported even with invalid admin-c/tech-c handler. Any updates will require at least one person or role object associated with it. We will be updating our registration process to create these objects for you.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">New mntner objects must also have at least one person or role object associated with it. We will initially handle this for you the the customer portal, but you should check the created person or role for correctness.</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">New mntner objects will use bcrypt for passwords. This will happen automatically for you through the customer portal</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="x-msg://2/#m_2752115936006427525_m_-1278871392211290094_m_-2351897707799796429_" style="text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" rel="noopener" class="">whois2.radb.net</a><span style="text-decoration:none;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""> </span>- IRRdv4 with current RADb objects and live mirroring of other RIRs</span></p>
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</ul><p style="line-height:175%;font-weight:bold;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">This move to IRRDv4 will bring many benefits to you, including:</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Improved RADb data quality</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Prevention of RPKI-invalid objects from being created in RADb</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Prevention of object creation for invalid prefixes (such as RFC 1918 space)</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">as-set and route-set object creation will be limited to the account that maintains the aut-num object extending and protecting the ASN of the resource holder from misrepresentation (requires use of hierarchical naming conventions)</span></p>
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<li style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><p style="line-height:175%;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Improved extensibility and maintainability</span></p>
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